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What Is E-Bay Global Shipping?

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  1. keithb7

    keithb7 Gold Member

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    I can tell you what it is. It’s crap. I assume some brilliant person at E-Bay figured out a way to get lower priced shipping rates so someone can be more profitable. I ordered a small guitar part recently. Dec 16 on Ebay. Origin was in Washington State. I’m in BC. We share the border. It’s still not arrived.

    I assume some genius decided it would be best if it was sent to some central E-bay hub in a place as far a possible, from its final destination. I’ve experienced this a few times now with various purchases. Can anyone shed some light with what this s h i t t y freight system is, and how it works?

    Yet another creative way to screw up what was great at one time. At no price reduction for the consumer.

    Thx.
     
  2. keto

    keto Gold Member

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    The plus side is a lot of buyers will sell to Canada because they can use this program and let ebay worry about delivery issues. But, yes, it goes to a hub somewhere and gets redistributed.
     
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  3. knight_yyz

    knight_yyz Gold Member

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    Everything is shipped to Pitney Bowse in Erlanger Kentucky. It is then repackaged and sent to you from there. Total farce on ebays part. I'd bet my paycheck that they don't send the money to the Canadian Government. They even charge tax on items less than 20 bucks sometimes. Canada Post has never ever dinged me on an item below 100 CDN but eBay dings everything for you. Another eBay cash grab
     
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  4. player99

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    It's something not to use.
     
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  5. jb welder

    jb welder

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    It's a way for them to collect the tax. Notice that the 'duty and import fees' equal what the tax would be? When the item in question is not subject to any duties?
    The real question is whether they are passing on the tax to our gov't or not. I assume they are, but if not it is quite a scam.
     
  6. knight_yyz

    knight_yyz Gold Member

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    There's a 2 or 3 dollar fee in there somewhere as well.
     
  7. player99

    player99 Gold Member

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    They make it so the US seller has nothing to do to sell out of the USA. This, in theory should be a good thing. But in reality there are so many charges it makes the cost of shipping prohibitive.
     
  8. Lincoln

    Lincoln Gold Member

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    I've used it a bunch of times on ebay purchases. As has been said, the seller ships to a depot, the depot ships to you. It takes a while longer, but I find it cheaper in a lot of cases. I've never had a "global shipping" transaction go bad on me. I did get some free from them once though. I got a set of Score 2019 NFL Trading cards (132 cards) in the mail one day from the global shipping address. I never ordered them, never paid for them. They came the same time as another item I had ordered. Some flunky put my address on a package bound for somebody else.
     
  9. Steadfastly

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    It is a way to increase sales for eBay and for them to take a bit of a cut and make themselves more profitable. It's call capitalism. Perhaps you've heard of it>
     
  10. Lincoln

    Lincoln Gold Member

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    Is there anything left in this world that is NOT driven & governed by capitalism???? I doubt it.

    The 60's are over man. So are the 70's.
     
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  11. boyscout

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    It's not so much that capitalism is in the mix. Many still remember that for a lot of years successful capitalism meant making customers HAPPY about their purchases so they'd tell others and maybe come back for more. That commitment to happiness is what's getting lost sometimes now, often when the behemoths of capitalism are involved.

    Amazon and EBay got huge because for a long time they were pretty amazing for customers. Now they can (maybe) withstand their failings and the criticism that arises from them, but capitalism isn't necessarily defined in that part of the story. The failings are an unfortunate - and maybe self-correcting - chapter but they are not the story

    Maybe as the story continues they'll either return to happy-making or will fade as other better happy-makers appear. THAT'S capitalism! :)
     
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  12. nnieman

    nnieman Gold Member

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    I used to sell a lot of guitar bodies on ebay.
    Then they brought in the global shipping program.
    My shipping rates jumped in price and it took longer for my customers to get their item.
    I did not see a dime.

    I now sell on Kijiji, reverb and here.

    Nathan
     
  13. knight_yyz

    knight_yyz Gold Member

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    You don't have to use global shipping as a seller. You can opt out any time. Most people don't know that which is a huge part of the bullshit. How many arguments have I had with people saying item was delivered when it was not. Seller can only track to Erlanger so they assume when it gets there the item is in my hands.....
     
  14. Steadfastly

    Steadfastly

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    Correct. I never use it. One seller said she only used it. I told her to cancel the order. There are other sellers.
     
  15. Granny Gremlin

    Granny Gremlin Gold Member

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    BS, is what it is.

    The idea is to make international shipping easier for US based sellers mostly. 3rd party (Pitney-Bowes, a corporate logistics/shipping company) has regional depots and the seller only has to worry about shipping it there. They precalculate the duties (if applicable) taxes and brokerage so it's all up front no surprises (the only good thing about it). Then they bulk ship to foreign countries to save cost. Once there (a local depot) they send to the buyers address using local post (usually - sometimes other carriers; whatever they think will be cheaper). Good idea on paper but badly implemented.

    The problems are:

    a) sometimes this ends up costing more than just sensing direct (sometimes it actually is cheaper - at least for me when buying from the US - for us selling from CA it may not be due to not having such a large economy of scale)
    b) this takes longer - first because it is shipped 3 times, and second because sometimes it must wait at the seller's local depot for enough packages to a given destination to accumulate for the bulk shipment leg
    c) they sometimes repackage on the last leg to save money. They are not good at this (and donl't actually care) so this has resulted in damaged goods for me twice (a pair of speakers and some RAM) - never had any damage before the GSP.

    Like some have said above, I avoid using it except in the case of low risk items when the cost seems reasonable (it will tell you in the listing) or in case of rarer items where there are no others available (even then I try to wait for a reasonable person who does not insist on only using the GSP).
     

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