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Wah before or after Fuzz / Drive?

Discussion in 'Effects Pedals, Strings and more' started by devnulljp, Oct 2, 2008.

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Where do you put wah in relation to fuzz and drive pedals?

  1. fuzz -> wah -> drive

    17 vote(s)
    17.5%
  2. wah -> fuzz -> drive

    55 vote(s)
    56.7%
  3. fuzz -> drive -> wah

    12 vote(s)
    12.4%
  4. something else entirely?

    13 vote(s)
    13.4%
  1. Rahlstin

    Rahlstin

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    Lethbridge, Alberta
    Guitar > Wah > Bad Monkey
     
  2. ThePass

    ThePass

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    Aug 9, 2007
    Location:
    Cambridge, Ontario
    Boss tuner ~ wah ~ Boss GE-7 EQ ~ Jekell & Hyde ~ delay ~ chorus ~ amp.


    Tuner first as I also use it as a "mute" between songs live. EQ just as a boost for solo's.
     
  3. pi39

    pi39

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    Smiths Falls
    I put my tuner first also.
    Boss Tuner, Wah, Fuzz, Fuzz, KOT
     
  4. ThePass

    ThePass

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    Cambridge, Ontario
    Maybe I'm wrong but I go Tuner > Wah > Drive > Delay > Chorus > amp.
     
  5. Milkman

    Milkman Gold Member

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    Brantford, Ontario
    I don't use fuzz. I've tried a couple and they sound cool by themselves but in the context of a band I find they really tend to get lost in the mix.

    Currently I go wireless - delay - chorus or flange - overdrive, and distortions - rotary effect - amp.
     
  6. seanmj

    seanmj

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    Toronto, Ontario
    Just fooling around with this myself. I haven't been using my fuzz much as of late... as it always seems to harsh for some reason. Then I tried putting it before my wah... and the problem seems to be solved. I read recently that my wah (Bad Horsie II) has a buffer in it... so I think the germo London Fuzz didn't like being after it.

    Sean Meredith-Jones
    www.seanmeredithjones.com
     
  7. Roybruno92

    Roybruno92

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    Carignan QC
    I've found you need to switch stuff around to find a good sound. My germanium fuzzes(Fuzz Factory and BC SuperFuzz) need to be placed before everything(thus the wah). When placing these after the wah, I was getting slushy results and weird inteference noises; although they could sound cool if I played in Godspeed; but i don't ;). I have a EQD Hoof that sounds crazy awesome after the wah; great for leads. My V1 jekkyl and hyde sounds awesome after the wah, but that is the general conclusion ive come to with ODs and distortion boxes.
     
  8. jimihendrix

    jimihendrix

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    hamilton,ontario
    Here's a pedal designed to switch pedal orders on the fly...aptly named the "Flip Flop"...

    [video=youtube;xQxAyY_HPLw]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQxAyY_HPLw&feature=related[/video]
     
  9. TWRC

    TWRC

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    Edmonton, Alberta
    I've always used a lower drive or boost pedal before the wah for those treadle down moments just to add a bit of flavour, but I always run my higher gain pedals after my wah. I currently have 2 fuzz pedals in the mix and I get some crazy oscillating when using a wah with them, so I'm thinking of either building a buffer (would love to see a breadboard layout for one because I'm no good at reading schematics - wink wink, nudge nudge) or picking up one of those Foxrox wah buffers.

    My current pedalboard: Whammy IV > Retro-Sonic Preamp Boost > Vox 847 Wah (with vocal and inductor mods) > Maxon OD-9 > Stomp Under Foot Screaming Panda Distortion > Big Muff V4 > Malekko Omicron Fuzz > Boss GE-7 > Boss DD-7 > Line 6 Verbzilla
     
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2011
  10. sulphur

    sulphur

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    Sudbury, Ontario
    I tried this tonight and found that my VFE Fiery Red Horse sounds better (to me)
    before the wah. It seems smoother that way and a little harsher when positioned after.
     
  11. mhammer

    mhammer

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    Ottawa, Ontario
    This is precisely what I have been arguing for. Glad to see someone has done it. And as you can see, being able to flip without having to rewire/repatch a pedalboard is a godsend.
     
  12. ledfloyd

    ledfloyd

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    New Westminster, BC
    Most vintage design type fuzzes should be first in your chain because they want to see the high impedance signal from the guitar's pickups. When the wah is first it may be sennding a buffered and/or low(er) impedance signal to the fuzz which they don't like.
     
  13. closetmonster.

    closetmonster.

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    Location:
    Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
    I have played around with my setup endlessly trying to get the order of these effects right.

    For now I've settled on Fuzz>Wah>Compressor>Clean Boost>OD

    Previously, I have put my Compressor after ALL of my dirt pedals, but realized that was putting a large damper on the real sound of my overdrive.

    I prefer to have the fuzz before the wah because when I use them together it seems to create a more natural breakup and feedback.

    As for having the compresser after the two, I use an Ibanez CP10 which has a built in sustainer, and it gives me some seriously creamy lead tones.
     
  14. BEMUSofNrthAmra

    BEMUSofNrthAmra

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    Niagara Falls, ON
    i guess it depends on whether you want to wah the fuzz or fuzz the wah, am i right or am i right?
     
  15. zontar

    zontar

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    That's why I have a distortion pedal on both sides of my Wah--(Okay I use a Dynamic Wah--but same idea...)
     

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