Discussion in 'Effects Pedals, Strings and more' started by player99, Nov 29, 2019.
TS 808 any different than the 9 ?
The 9 I have is the DSX Turbo. It has a 4 position knob that changes the focus of the pedal. For example, the bottom position
has lots of bass in it, the top position will be an 808 which has the mids and not much bottom. So you can find the eq setting you like. In my rig now, the TS808 was thin and fizzy. This is all low volume higher gain stuff and very much just my issue with my setup. When I crank the 808 up, it gets noisy. My TS808 has an old JRC4558D opamp installed. For the mojo...
For me it is multiple pedals, and two drive pedals. Any more and the noise gets to be too much to handle. So I use the Minstrel as the main lower gain sound, and add another drive to amp it up. I settled on the Barber Tone Pump, the Zen Drive Gold, and the 'Lil Mo as the additional drive pedal. The Zen Drive seems to give up the most for the least noise. The Barber sounds really good but it seems to be noisy, or has the potential for noise. The 'Lil Mo will get fizzy if I am not careful.
When I gang up 2 drives I make sure the 2nd drive I engage is at least as loud as the first drive, and usually slightly louder. This drive might be going into the first drive.
I am looking for a good sound without fizz or noise. I also am listening for extraneous noise coming from the slide and the strings. Some drives accentuate that.
I find using 2 compressors helps me get a good slide sound. The Cali76 into the JHS Pulp 'n Peel works nicely. I like the fact they both have blend knobs. I keep them at 40% - 65% blend.
That sounds great. Not the slide sound I am going after though. I am trying for more like the sound Bad To the Bone or the Black Crows. Without the 100 watt amp cranked.
I also have a clean, yet still thick sound I use for fingerpicking and songs that I don't want the heavy OD. The Minstrel set properly with one or 2 comps before it give this to me.
This is another slide sound I really like. He used Dumble amps, and I have a Fuchs ODS 30, which is a Dumble clone. Apparently.
I had not tried the Octron 3 on slide but after watching Robert Randolph's Rig Rundown from 2011 he used a Cusack Screamer Fuzz (anyone have one?). Remembering you mentioning the Octron 3 I played around with the it. If I dial out the bass, I can get some great tones with the O3 into the Minstrel. The octave knob acts sort of like a tone knob. Thanks for the tip.
This is a cool lesson or tip on a Ry Cooder doing a slide "string drag" thing.
Some time ago I bought a Fathead ribbon mic (with the Lundahl transformer). I have never plugged it in, but I am going to
be doing some recording soon, so I will test it out with my pedals. I may post the sound files here if anyone would be interested
what I get these pedals to sound like interpreted by the ribbon mic.
I made a 4049-inverter-based overdrive for Lindley when he was in town for Bluesfest, damn near 20 years back, because I thought it nailed his lap steel sound. I gave it to him and he was pleasant about it, but I have no idea what he ever did with it. For all I know it sits in a pile of stuff belonging to a roadie. That said, I should have loaned mine to you when you were over yesterday. They're nice for low drive needs.
The Ibanez MT10 Mostortion has a few things going for it, that set it apart from TS-type pedals. Folks can be distracted by its use of a fairly different op-amp chip (the Bi-Mos CA3260), but it:
- uses a higher clipping threshold, via use of more diodes, like the Timmy, King of Tone, and similar
- uses a less pronounced low-end rolloff than the TS and SD-1 (268hz vs 720hz)
- provides 3-band EQ
And Blake Mills demonstrating what a horseshoe pickup can do for slide.
Here's another guy with great slide tone (and control of his instrument). Lap steel, so perhaps not completely applicable. And of course, unobtanium amps.
When I hear people talking about 'stacking overdrives', I never took it quite so literally. Cool pics.
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