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Solved. Simple on/off switch for effects on mixing board

Discussion in 'Effects Pedals, Strings and more' started by laristotle, Nov 19, 2019.

  1. laristotle

    laristotle Gold Member

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    For use with our mixing board to turn off the reverb when speaking to the crowd in between songs.
    I tried one of my pedals from my amp that switches between channels.
    It works, however, you have to stomp on it twice to turn off, twice again to to turn on.
    From what I could find, I need a momentary switch?

    Can anyone offer assistance here? with a wiring diagram?
    Thnks.
     
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  2. Granny Gremlin

    Granny Gremlin Gold Member

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    Wiring is the same except the switch is momentary - you need to find out if you need normally closed or normally open (I would assume open, but people do things different sometimes). Only possible difference is weird control voltage schemes, which I wouldn't think apply here.

    To be absolutely sure you'd have to at least tell us make/model of mixer though link to the manual would be best.
     
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  3. laristotle

    laristotle Gold Member

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    It's a Behringer Europower PMP2000
    This is all that is states in regards to a footswitch;
    Use the FX FOOTSW(itch) jack to connect any commercially available foot controller. It allows you to bypass the effects unit.
     
  4. oldjoat

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    diagram says it momentarily connects the 2 poles .... shorts them together when switch is activated ... page 7 right hand side.
     
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  5. laristotle

    laristotle Gold Member

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    If I'm reading this correctly, the sleeve is connected to pole 1 (left lug?) and ground (center lug)?
    or, one or the other?
    Tip to pole 2 (right lug)?

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    Footswitch - SPDT On-(On) Momentary (solder)

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    or use one of these?
    Footswitch - SPST On-(Off) Momentary (solder)

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  6. greco

    greco Gold Member

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    Rather than a momentary switch, would you not prefer a push on <> push off.
     
  7. laristotle

    laristotle Gold Member

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    I'm not sure. Hence this thread.
     
  8. greco

    greco Gold Member

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    Unless I'm mistaken, with the momentary switch, you will have to push it on and hold it down for the entire time you want to turn the effect off. As soon as you lift your foot off of the switch, the effect will come back on again.

    If you didn't especially want the switch to be foot activated, you could use a simple toggle or push button...either of which could be hand operated.
     
  9. DaddyDog

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    I didn't even know that was something people wanted to do. Has the audience complained about it?
     
  10. KapnKrunch

    KapnKrunch Gold Member

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    I was hoping for more info on this.

    I use a momentary switch to activate tremolo on whole notes and half notes. Straight forward. "Normally OFF".

    But, I also use a momemtary switch to trigger anything on my drum machine: start/stop, add fill, go to next pattern. Same switch, same plug -- choices are made in the machine programming. TR (one switch) or TRS (two switches). Some momentaries trigger the change when depressed and others trigger when released. A latching switch requires two stomps.

    Further enlightenment required. I gotta Google? C'mon...
     
  11. laristotle

    laristotle Gold Member

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    I did a lot of that. Wound up having to join the PA maker's forum just to send an email to support.
    They were no help. Just sent a link to buy one of their pedals. pfft.

    Bought a off(on) momentary switch this morning at Neutron Electronics in Guelph after discussing the situation with the clerk.
    Came back not too long ago from our studio after doing a naked test (alligator jumpers to an input jack, plugged into cable).
    Eureka! It's Alive!! Does what it's supposed to.
    Now to mount it into my stomp box.
    I'm a happy camper now. :D
     
  12. KapnKrunch

    KapnKrunch Gold Member

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    Yay! Who cares how it works, if it works. Lol.

    The wrong switch is especially annoying when trying to tap out a beat, and the sound triggers on the release not the tap.
     
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  13. greco

    greco Gold Member

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    Is the studio heated? (j/k)
     
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  14. laristotle

    laristotle Gold Member

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    The drummer's wife let me in .. while he wasn't home. lol
     
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  15. chuck_zc

    chuck_zc Gold Member

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    More than likely uses electronic switching like most Boss and Ibanez pedals. They use a momentary switch and a "flip-flop" circuit.
     
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