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Discussion in 'Recording and PA Lounge' started by Kerry Brown, Nov 6, 2019.

  1. KapnKrunch

    KapnKrunch Gold Member

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    Thx Kerry. I consulted with Ronmac when I noticed we were both on line in the middle of the night. (Altho he lives in NS he the brother-in-law of my friend here in SK, so I know that he has used these a lot in a variety of work.) The 835, 840, 845 and 935 are his faves. Never know tho, an Aphex 381 may pop up and my mind will be open to it.
     
  2. allthumbs56

    allthumbs56 Gold Member

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    When you guys say "SM58" do you mean just that or the Beta SM58a - to me there's a big difference.
     
  3. Kerry Brown

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    Short update. We’ve used the Sennheiser for a couple of practices. Monica really likes it. It needs very little EQ for her voice. She is a very dynamic singer and really belts it out in some songs. The mic handles that no problem. She says the best thing about it is the flattish top instead of a domed top. She says it’s easier for her to tell where the mic is. - Singers :)
     
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  4. bw66

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    Yes, the Beta 58a is a far better mic than the SM58. But in that price range, I still prefer the Sennheiser e935/945 mics. (The 945 is probably a fairer comparison as it is super-cardioid like the Beta 58. Personally, I like a mic that is slightly less directional like the 935.)

    I've always felt that the SM58 was unflattering to most female voices, and that flatter response of the e835 was better suited to female voices (though,as I've said before, I prefer it on almost all voices).
     
  5. High/Deaf

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    I've got an e845 and like it a lot. I used it at home for band practice - it's crisper and more open than a 58.

    But still take a 58 out to jams/gigs/etc because of the resistance or concern I get from some soundpeople. Weird. A mic's a mic and you're gonna tweak the strip for the guy's voice, one way or the other. I don't get the "I only like to use one type of mic" mentality.
     
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  6. KapnKrunch

    KapnKrunch Gold Member

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    Agree. If the 58 was functioning properly I would just continue with it, but...
     
  7. allthumbs56

    allthumbs56 Gold Member

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    So my local pawn shop has an 835 for $60 and an Beta SM58A for $120. I don't really need another mic but I do only have an old Samson for when I want to mic my amp (as well as a 20 year-old Beta 58A - which I neither love nor hate, for my vocals). Which do you think would be the better value purchase? The 835 to just try something different? The Shure because it's a Shure?
     
  8. sulphur

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    I too was referring to the regular 58.
     
  9. bw66

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    Both are pretty good value at 50-60% of retail. You could buy both, try them, and re-sell the one you like least. I'm pretty sure that you could get the same price for them on re-sale. Your 20 year-old Beta 58a will sound just like the one in the pawn shop - they really haven't changed.
     
  10. Milkman

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    I have a box with a bunch of 57s and 58s as well as some AKG and even some Apex.

    Honestly, in my opinion if you can’t get a good sound out of a 57 or 58 it’s probably not the mic’s fault.

    To my ear, they either work or they don’t, and yes, you can pound nails in with them and still have a functional mic.
     
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  11. bw66

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    Absolutely. The SM58 is a workhorse and a perfectly serviceable mic. But if someone is shopping for an entry level vocal mic, I feel that there are better sounding mics out there for the same money.
     
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  12. Frenchy99

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    Been signing for a long time and use a Beta SM58A now exclusively in my gigs. I`ve tried so many in the past and have narrowed it down to the Beta.

    Its great to have a variety of mics but one will always be better for you. Trial and error. Mics are like guitars and basses, nice to have a selection.
     
  13. sulphur

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    Nobody said that a 58 wasn't a functional mic, just that they preferred another.
     
  14. Milkman

    Milkman Gold Member

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    I can sell you a working 58 for $75 with a cord. Good luck getting a better vocal mic for less.

    I think you really can’t overstate just how brilliant a design they have and how effectively these mics have been manufactured all these years.

    As a sound man I work with what I’m given (basic standards assumed). Sometimes that’s a box full of Sennheisers sometimes it’s Shures, and more often a mix.

    I’m never nervous about those choices, because much like guitar playing, I know I can get a good clean sound with any of the above.

    On reflection though, maybe the 58 is just what I prefer. I always seem to have to EQ the shit out of other mics until I get them sounding more or less like a 58.
     
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  15. dradlin

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    A 58 (or any dynamic mic) to amplify a classical guitar?... sounds like a fail to me. You’d be better of with a bottle cap pickup or entry level ust pickup... even better off with a better ust pickup. If you insist on a mic you should be in the condenser realm.
     

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