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Discussion in 'Effects Pedals, Strings and more' started by Adcandour, Dec 8, 2015.

  1. davetcan

    davetcan Staff Member

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    I don't even remember seeing that one listed, LOL. I would have bypassed it too.

    On another note the 11r sounds a lot better going into the fx loop of my amp, as opposed to the front end. Essentially just using my amp as a power amp. I'll try the PA today if i get a chance.

    Not very many (if any) presets that I like so far, I'll have to build them from scratch I believe. Also everything starts out sounding pretty thin and bright. Could be my amp and cab but I doubt it, sounded the same through my monitors too. Fortunately I can dial most of it out. Still preferring amp and pedals live at the moment. For recording this thing is really good though.
     
  2. Adcandour

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    I think that may be why the 11r isn't so popular - maybe it's simply too picky. I'm finding the presets only need a bit of tweaking and otherwise sound really good and that they are more on the thick and fat side versus thinny. I've been really using the guitar's knobs a lot more lately to help tweak.

    The best way to test if its your set-up is find a preset online and see if yours sounds similar. There's an incredible satriani one.
     
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  3. davetcan

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    Link?
     
  4. pat6969

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    Actually it was quite popular a few years ago. Avid gave up on development, no more updates, that's why nobody uses it any more. It had the potential to be an Axe FX if Avid had kept on top of it. Like every modeller, try using the PEQ to add some high cut at 8-9K, that will tame the high end sizzle and make your preset sound more "amp in room" since actual guitar cabs don't reproduce those high frequencies.
     
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  5. davetcan

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    I really need a PEQ for dummies lesson, LOL. "add some high cut" sounds like "jumbo shrimp" to me :)
     
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  6. Adcandour

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    Yeah, parametric EQ is pretty difficult for newbies. I was having trouble, and did some research online and made some notes on how to use one for different things.

    I can provide links to anything at the moment, since I'm using my bluetooth and driving. When I get home, I'll dig some stuff up
     
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  7. pat6969

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    Can't quite remember how I did it on the 11r but I think I added the PEQ, scrolled over to high and added the high pass filter, then took the frequency down to 8-9K. Really cleans up the fizzy presets.
     
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  8. davetcan

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  9. davetcan

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    Para EQ stuff.

     
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  10. Adcandour

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    Thanks Dave. That's a really good video - especially since mud is my number one enemy.

    I'm actually going to really dig into PEQing once I start putting my presets together. I've just got to find the right foot controller to load them and I'm waiting on one more piece of gear coming in from Ohio before I have all the effects units I need.

    Right now I've got 3 1u effects processors - the TC - G (I snagged from you), the Lexicon PCM-80, and the 'blackface' Rocktron Intellifex.

    I'm going to be using my Rocktron Patchmate Loop 8 to route everything. It's going to start to get crazy - I have to connect the power station to act as the power amp for the 11r and then use it's fx loop for the old marshall. I'm going to lose a lot of hair before this is completed.

    What did you think of the Eric Johnson Preset? I've been learning the intro to Cliffs just because of it. It'll be a about a week before it's recording-worthy. What a great song. Admittedly, I've lost a bit of respect for Bonamassa due to learning it. I knew he was heavily influenced, but...wow.

    On a side - my autocorrect just suggested that I replace "I've got to find" with "I've gotta find". Unbelieveable.

    Here's that satch patch (it's very very close):

     
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  11. davetcan

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    ^^ my fingers will never do that,LOL. Nice sounding patch though. I did like the Johnson preset. I've also dialed in a great "Run Like Hell" patch, which is something very difficult to do with just amp and pedals.

    I need to stop tweaking and start learning for a bit. I've got a bunch of new stuff to get down by this Thursday :) Some I know but need to improve. 11r will just be a side project for awhile.

    Spooky
    Give Me One Reason
    Chains of Love
    Heart Without A Soul
    Give It To A Good Man
    Fire On The Water
    Born With A Broken Heart SD
    Comfortably Numb
    How Long
    Lyin’ Eyes
    A Quitter Never Wins
    Take It Easy
    Diggin' A Hole
    Dirty Work in A
     
  12. grumpyoldman

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    Ooh, is that Dirty Work by Steely Dan, or the cover of that song by Songbird? My apologies for the derail, but, if so, excellent song.

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  13. davetcan

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    Steely Dan, of course. Sorry if you preferred the other one :)
     
  14. davetcan

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    Here's my Run Like Hell patch attempt. Obviously I don't really know the song and need to work on that right hand. Cool sounding patch though. This is AVRI Tele > 11r > Koch Studiotone FX Loop In > 1x12 Thiele Cab. So just using the Koch as a power amp.

     
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  15. Adcandour

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    That sounds great. The chords really sound accurate - I want to give it a listen through my Bose in the basement though. Mac speaker don't do it justice.

    I'll have to dig some of these patches up.

    There's a website called elevenrackpresets.com that I'm going to look into soon. I think they have well over a thousand there. I just have to see if there's a way around not having protools.
     
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