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NMD: More Rack Shite

Discussion in 'Effects Pedals, Strings and more' started by Adcandour, Dec 8, 2015.

  1. Adcandour

    Adcandour Gold Member

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    Well, I lowballed a guy in Halton Hills and picked myself up an Avid Eleven Rack for $300. He wanted $350 firm, but saying I'll be there in less than 24 hours really gets people motivated.

    The guy I purchased it from kindly demonstrated some of the tones and explained how he had it set up. It sounded amazing. I don't know why I was expecting it to sound like garbage.

    He said the key was running it through a tubed power amp. He was using a Mesa 20/20, so I've been scouring the net for one or a marshall alternative.

    Then it occurred to me - the Fryette Power Station is THE amp multi-tool for the job. I stuck it into the effects return and I could only get a slight taste before my wife reamed me out. The volume went 1, 2, 10 with no happy medium. I thought that was weird, since it's a bloody attenuator.

    I went back to the Fryette Youtube Demo and realized I should have put plugged it into the line in, but I'll have to wait until tomorrow to check it out. Nevertheless, I have effectively added tubes to the chain and can't wait to let it rip tomorrow.
     
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  2. bzrkrage

    bzrkrage Gold Member

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    Nice work. I never gave the eleven a look.
    When you get a chance, top 3 factory settings?


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  3. Adcandour

    Adcandour Gold Member

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    For sure. I'll make a few clips.

    For the price of a couple of pedals, I couldn't go wrong.
     
  4. pat6969

    pat6969 Gold Member

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    I have an 11r I run into a Yamaha DXR10, sounds killer, absolutely no need for an amp and cab!! Here's a quick clip of my JCM800 patch.

     
  5. Adcandour

    Adcandour Gold Member

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    That does sound really good. I was considering that speaker over the atomic clr - in the shootouts it sounds better to me, but, again, I'm leary when using YouTube as a reference.

    I'm enjoying the 11r more and more each day.

    I just need a couple of hours with it to dial in a bluesy lead tone though.
     
  6. pat6969

    pat6969 Gold Member

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    CLR is good but the Yamaha kicks butt as well, sounds really good for half the price.
     
  7. Adcandour

    Adcandour Gold Member

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    I couldn't take it anymore. I stopped at Steve's Music to try the Yamaha DXRs (I brought the 11r with me).

    It sounded good, but I urge you to try it with a quality tube power amp and cabinet. It is a completely different animal.
     
  8. pat6969

    pat6969 Gold Member

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    I used to use it with an amp and cab but the reason I went to a modeller was to get rid of lugging all that gear around. It takes a bit of time to get a real good patch to go through a monitor but it's worth it.
     
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  9. Lord-Humongous

    Lord-Humongous Gold Member

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    Is the 11r easy to use? I have a POD that I run through a keyboard amp. I imagine a newer rack unit would be a considerable upgrade. My fear is that I'd end up over my head though, the POD is so easy to use.
     
  10. Adcandour

    Adcandour Gold Member

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    I find it extremely easy to use and I'm not good at this stuff at all.
     
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  11. pat6969

    pat6969 Gold Member

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    Great thing about the 11r is it's been around a while so there are tons of presets available to download into the unit. You'd spend a bit of time demoing them but once you found something you like you'd be off to the races and smiling from ear to ear.
     
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  12. davetcan

    davetcan Staff Member

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    I had one when they first came out and really liked it. The only downside to me was the link with ProTools. Now that a standalone editor is available I'll be picking up another one. It sounded great and was really easy to use. I'm toying with the idea of mating it to a Quilter Powerblock, or something like it, but I'll see if it's as good as my memory tells me it was first :)

    Keep us posted on how you're making out with it please.
     
  13. Adcandour

    Adcandour Gold Member

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    Just a quick update - I'm loving this unit. To say that it's the best $300 I've ever spent on gear would be a bit misleading though, because I really feel the power amp makes a MASSIVE difference. Do you have one kicking around (is that what the Quilter is?)? I heard this unit through a Mesa 20/20 and it sounded amazing. It also sounds great through my Fryette Power Station. I'm only thinking the Mesa sounds better, because I don't own it:)

    The stand alone editor is fantastic and I'm currently trying to acquire the Expansion Pack (Those goofs at Avid haven't resolved an on-going issue with serial numbers and systemIDs matching up). You HAVE to check out some of the youtube emulations - satriani, eric johnson, etc. Very good stuff.

    Once I get the parametric EQ from the expansion pack, I'm going to try and eliminate the need for my Marshall...and I won't sell it first this time.
     
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  14. davetcan

    davetcan Staff Member

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    The Quilter I was looking at is a rack mountable power amp. Solid State however. I don't have anything lying around right now.

    https://www.quilterlabs.com/index.php/products/toneblock-amplifiers/tone-block-200

    Stereo version is also available.

    I will be keeping my eyes open for a good quality used power amp in the meantime, but I'd really like to keep the weight down.

    I think the one coming to me already has the expansion pack on it. My old one did and it was well worth having.
     
  15. Budda

    Budda Gold Member

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    For what it's worth, the rather big band we share our jamspace with uses Quilter poweramps for their axe fx rigs. I believe a forum pal in Seattle (not Ian haha) also runs a quilter power amp for one of his rigs, and he loves it to pieces.
     

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