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Line 6 Helix???

Discussion in 'Effects Pedals, Strings and more' started by pat6969, Oct 2, 2015.

  1. hollowbody

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    I've been using mine with the Friedman 4x12 IR from 3 Sigma. Loving the sounds I'm getting out of this. Spent some time last night tweaking some presets where I was previously using the Bogner Shiva/Uber for my lead sounds and replacing them with the Archon. Honestly, with a clean and lead Archon, you can go a loooong way. I'm thinking of creating a master-preset for my base tone that uses EXP1 to increase gain and decrease channel volume so I can use the clean Archon and switch to a dirty sound and adjust the level of dirt to taste based on the song.

    I agree. I'm still well within the honeymoon phase of my Helix ownership, but in the last two months, I've received some compliments on my tone from sound techs who were also very happy to not deal with stage volume, I've enjoyed dealing with app-based effects/setlist editing (which is a dream come true for me) and I've seen L6 come out with a major update just a few months after their last major update.

    The one thing I was a little iffy on when it came to modelers was L6's ability/desire to continuously update their software. I figured Fractal had the edge here, but L6 has really shown a willingness to improve their product and I couldn't be happier!
     
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  2. hollowbody

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    double post
     
  3. Man0warrioR

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    I got it this weekend and it has been hard to balance...life!

    I love the editor so much that I'd probably not be able to edit in the unit itself :P

    Question below (plz pardon my ignorance):

    1. Anyone reamping via cubase? I'd love to talk/pm about the routing. I am doing something wrong but dont know what.
    2. Output advice needed. I am using helix as an audio interface with my KRKs. Basically the two quarter inch from helix to my monitors. I also have a scarlett 2i2 (not in use right now). Any advice on other routing options with these gears to get the best sound?

    Thanks
     
  4. Man0warrioR

    Man0warrioR

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    btw, it cost me 2200 + CAD including tax at L&M! The one time I am disappointed for not being in the US.
     
  5. Steadfastly

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    You could have driven to Buffalo and got it for $1725.00 CDN + HST. Maybe I shouldn't be telling you that you could have saved $500.00 now that it is too late.
     
  6. vadsy

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    ...but you just can't help yourself,... because you're such a 'nice' and 'helpful' guy

    pat yourself on the back, Steadly, you're awesome
     
  7. hollowbody

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    lol.
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    try both methods and see what you like best. I'm running XLRs into my Presonus Audiobox 22VSL because I like the preamps. Sounds pretty good to me.

    Things I've found useful are to adjust the low and high filters on the cabs. The high is less important, but will reduce hiss, the low, though, is hugely important. Without EQing, the presets have WAY too much low end for me. This isn't as noticeable on headphones or small monitors, but into large PA cabs, you'll definitely realize that you have too much low end. I filter out anything below 120hz and anything above 6khz on the cabs.

    Also, I disable the volume knob for the XLR outs. This allows me to run XLR to the board/interface at a steady signal that won't change and mess up the mix, but allows me to control the 1/4" outs in case I want to turn myself up in the monitor, if I'm running one. I also set the XLR outs to Mic, not Line. I feel like this sounds better.
     
  8. Man0warrioR

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    Thanks a lot hollowbody. Will do.
     
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  9. hollowbody

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    Hey everyone, Helix 2.20 is out as of yesterday. Mostly new bass stuff this time around, but a few neat features that I'm interested in, too - namely the 4OSC, reduced DSP usage for reverbs and the autoswell feature.

    New Amps (6)
    • Line 6 Badonk, all new Line 6 original inspired by the original high gain Big Bottom model
    • Woody Blue, based on* the Acoustic® 360 bass amp
    • Del Sol 300, based on* the Sunn® Coliseum 300 bass amp
    • Busy One Ch1, based on* channel 1 of the Pearce BC-1 bass preamp
    • Busy One Ch2, based on* channel 2 of the Pearce BC-1 bass preamp
    • Busy One Jump, based on* channel 1 and 2 (jumped) of the Pearce BC-1 bass preamp
    New Hybrid Cabs (7)
    • 1x12 Cali IV, based on* the MESA/Boogie® Mk IV 12” cab
    • 1x12 Cali EXT, based on* the MESA/Boogie® 12” extension cab (EVM12L speaker)
    • 2x12 Match H30, based on* the Matchless® DC-30 cab (12” G12H30 speaker)
    • 2x12 Match G25, based on* the Matchless® DC-30 cab (12” Greenback 25 speaker)
    • 1x12 Del Sol, based on* the Sunn® Coliseum 300 bass cab (12” speaker)
    • 1x18 Del Sol, based on* the Sunn® Coliseum 300 bass cab (18” speaker)
    • 1x18 Woody Blue, based on* the Acoustic® 360 18” bass cab
    New Effects (9)
    • Distortion > Obsidian 7000 (Mono, Stereo), based on* the Darkglass Electronics® Microtubes B7K Ultra bass preamp/overdrive/EQ
    • Distortion > Clawthorn Drive (Mono, Stereo), based on* the Wounded Paw Battering Ram bass overdrive
    • Dynamics > 3-Band Comp (Mono, Stereo), Line 6 Original multiband compressor
    • Dynamics > Autoswell (Mono, Stereo), Line 6 Original
    • Modulation > PlastiChorus (Mono, Stereo), based on* the modded Arion SCH-Z chorus
    • Delay > Vintage Swell (Mono, Stereo), Line 6 Original
    • Delay > Adriatic Swell (Mono, Stereo), Line 6 Original
    • Pitch/Synth > 3 Note Generator (Mono, Stereo), Line 6 Original
    • Pitch/Synth > 4 OSC Generator (Mono, Stereo), Line 6 Original
    NOTE: As 3 Note Generator and 4 OSC Generator make sound without any instrument connected, their blocks are turned off by default. Press BYPASS to turn them on.

    * All product names are trademarks of their respective owners, which are in no way associated or affiliated with Line 6.

    New Features
    • Global Settings > MIDI/Tempo > Receive MIDI Clock—Helix can now synchronize its time-based effects (such as delay and modulation) to incoming MIDI clock from external DAW software, drum machines, keyboard workstations, or other modelers. Select “Off” (Helix ignores MIDI clock), “MIDI” (Helix responds to clock received at its MIDI IN jack), “USB” (Helix responds to clock received via USB), or “Auto” (Helix uses its internal tempo generator until receiving clock from either MIDI or USB)
    • Global Settings > MIDI/Tempo > Send MIDI Clock—Helix can now transmit MIDI clock to synchronize the tempo of external pedals, rack gear, and software. Select “Off” (Helix does not transmit clock), “MIDI” (Helix transmits clock from only the MIDI OUT jack), “USB” (Helix transmits clock only via USB), or “MIDI+USB” (Helix transmits clock from both MIDI and USB)
    • Variax Workbench HD Support—Variax can now communicate directly with Variax Workbench HD software (Mac/PC) through Helix via USB. IMPORTANT! Global Settings > MIDI/Tempo > MIDI over USB must be set to “On.”
    • Global Settings > MIDI/Tempo > MIDI PC Send/Receive has been split into two separate parameters—MIDI PC Receive and MIDI PC Send—and moved to Page 2. In addition, you may choose whether Helix sends or receives MIDI PC (program change) messages to/from MIDI, USB, both, or neither
    • Clear Bypass Assignment—Individual blocks’ bypass assignments can now be cleared. From the Bypass Assign screen, select the block whose bypass assignment(s) you wish to clear. Press ACTION and then Knob 1 (Clear Assignments).
    • Line 6 Allure Pack IRs—Line 6 has created a pack of five user impulse responses for use with Helix or any other modeler or software that supports them. Download the free Allure Pack here: www.line6.com/allure
    Improvements/Changes
    • Optimized GUI engine speeds up navigation and model selection
    • Receive MIDI Clock and Send MIDI Clock have also been added to the Tempo panel shortcut. At any time, touch TAP to open the Tempo panel.
    • When slaved to external MIDI clock, TAP’s scribble strip text grays out and its switch LED ring flashes blue
    • Reverb > Plate, Room, Chamber, Hall, Echo, Tile, Cave, Ducking, and Octo have all been optimized to be less DSP-intensive
    • Pitch > Pitch Wham, Twin Harmony, Simple Pitch, Dual Pitch, and 3 OSC Synth have all been optimized to be less DSP-intensive
    • Non-selected Pedal Edit parameter switches now reflect dim block color
    • Inactive Looper function switches now appear as dim white
    • Additions to and improvements made to the existing factory preset bundle
    Bug Fixes
    • In very rare cases, corrupted presets containing a Volume/Pan > Volume Pedal block can cause volume to drop to 0% - FIXED
    • Certain Roland keyboards constantly spit out active sensing MIDI messages (with no way to disable them), which could affect Helix’s MIDI transmission - FIXED
    • The Channel Volume taper for the Archetype amp model was incorrect - FIXED
    • Many other minor bug fixes and optimizations
    Known Issues
    • If a Variax guitar is connected to Helix, MIDI channel 16 should never be used, as channel 16 is how Variax Workbench communicates with the guitar. This is by design. On a related note, Variax Workbench should never be used while MIDI tracks are armed or playing back in your DAW
    • In rare cases, Helix may freeze when very rapidly changing presets while receiving MIDI clock
    • Helix’s blue TAP LED flashes but tempo is not actually synced unless an audio device is selected in Ableton Live
    • Subtle stepping may be heard when adjusting the main VOLUME knob while audio is present
    • If a user fails to read and follow the update instructions, Helix will engage Snapshot 2 in preset 8 Templates > 32D every day at 4:30 AM
     
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  10. jbealsmusic

    jbealsmusic Occasional CEO Dealer

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    Awesome that they keep the free updates coming. I'll have to check out the new amp models and that IR pack when I get a chance to run the update.
     
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  11. jdto

    jdto Gold Member

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    I need to fix my computer. I think I'd get even more out of my Helix if I did. That said, I'm still enjoying it.
     
  12. 1SweetRide

    1SweetRide Gold Member

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    Was looking at Line 6 products and liked the specs of the Helix but was turned off when I saw the last app update for the still current Firehawk was over a year ago. Bought a GT-100 but will keep my eye on the Helix.
     
  13. hollowbody

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    The Helix is where the majority of the R&D at Line 6 is going right now. They've been issuing updates for the Helix very regularly. I think there's been 4 updates in the last 8 or 9 months and 2 of them were major updates with a LOT of new stuff. I'm sure they'll eventually trickle-down stuff to the Firehawk, but that's just how it goes. The flagship model gets all the goodies and they eventually funnel parts of that tech to the products on the lower rungs. The Firehawk was meant to be the next step to the POD and HD series. It was never going to rival the Helix, so you can't expect to be receiving Helix-level goodies on that device.
     
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  14. tomsy49

    tomsy49 Gold Member

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    What was initially thought of as an elaborate April Fool's joke turned into a real thing! For anyone that needs a little less physical flexibility Line 6 has released the Helix LT. Released on April 1st. Still not cheap but very reasonable!

    Line 6 Helix LT Guitar Multi-effects Processor
     
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  15. hollowbody

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    Yeah, that seems super neat! Perfect if you're itching to try a Helix but are balking at the price. Pretty much sacrificing some I/O. DSP horsepower, sounds, available effects, etc are all identical.
     
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