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Line 6 Helix???

Discussion in 'Effects Pedals, Strings and more' started by pat6969, Oct 2, 2015.

  1. pat6969

    pat6969 Gold Member

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    Not interested in waiting. I'm thinking of buying the Helix and then snagging the AX8 as well. Was just wondering if anyone has heard anything on when they're hitting the streets.
     
  2. TimH

    TimH Gold Member

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    I'm one of the people with a deposit down on the unit...I'm hoping it shows up next week since a) the US is getting theirs and b) L&M are the CND distributors.
     
  3. Milkman

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    I wouldn't rule one out for me at some point.

    If the resale value is so low and they're as undesireable as some believe, there should be an abundance of them for sale used and at a very low price by the time I'm ready.
     
  4. Milkman

    Milkman Gold Member

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    Modelers will NEVER get it to 100%. Real is real and modelers are always going to be a simulation.

    But, how different is the tone really?

    I wonder in a double blind test how many of us would really be able to conclusively tell the difference.

    I also know that in a live context, once that tube amp is mic'd and the signal travels down the snake, through the board, rack, back up the snake to the stage, through the power amps and then through the mains, the difference will be of little impact.

    But that's just my opinion.
     
  5. TimH

    TimH Gold Member

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    This whole conversation about resale value is silly...The newest POD sells for $679 new and usually $500 used. The HD500, with the release of Helix, is 2 generations old and sells for an average of $300. So the current generation resale value is about 74% resale on the used market.

    To compare, the last Kemper sold on this board was asking $1700 and sells new for $2250 - 75.5% assuming the seller got their full asking price.
     
  6. vadsy

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    I've done the Line6 thing several times and I suppose it'll happen again. Don't know how long it would stick with me this time but at least the feedback seems positive in German.
     
  7. Cups

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    That brings up another important point (thanks Milkman): you have much more control over the final sound in a live situation. Dudes spend thousands on gear and let sound guys plac any old mic any old way and are confident the sound on stage will be represented front of house. Better control over all the variables was a big draw to digital for me.
     
  8. vadsy

    vadsy

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    For those of you using these systems, what do you find is the best way to monitor yourselves in a live situation? If in-ears are out and the house doesn't have anything what do you bring with you?
     
  9. pat6969

    pat6969 Gold Member

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    I use an EV ZLX-12P with my AxeFX. I considered the CLR but thought a decent monitor would give me a better representation of what will be coming out FOH.
     
  10. Steadfastly

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    Nope, that is fact. There have been blind tests done and many of the so-called experts had to admit they got it wrong. Many of the ones that got it right admitted it was just a guess.
     
  11. It sounds compressed and sterile in the video to me. One thing I like to remember is the guys doing the demos are super ringers. They are very very good at playing, and getting great sounds out of anything. Check out YouTube vids on your favorite pedals. The ones from PGS or Prymaxe etc. sound great. Then check out videos that are made by a home user. They sound buzzy and nothing like the pro vids.
     
  12. amagras

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    There will always be one that is better...
     
  13. Milkman

    Milkman Gold Member

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    I've never been in a situation where I can't use IEMs or where there's no monitor mix available. If I had to drag a powered speaker or other means to hear a modeler out to a show, I might as well bring a normal rig.
    I know there are full range powered cabs that are purpose built for such applications and I've heard the sound good, but somehow that seems to defeat the purpose for me.

    I like the silent stage approach.
     
  14. TimH

    TimH Gold Member

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    anyone getting a shipping update?
     
  15. jbealsmusic

    jbealsmusic Occasional CEO Dealer

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    I guy on another forum contacted L&M for an update. They were told the units are at Yorkville (distributor). No word yet on when they'll actually get to stores or ship out to customers.

    Maybe they haven't yet been flashed with the proper firmware.
     

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