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Fractal Audio Systems AX8 (not FX8)

Discussion in 'Effects Pedals, Strings and more' started by jbealsmusic, Feb 22, 2015.

  1. jbealsmusic

    jbealsmusic Occasional CEO Dealer

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    Cliff posted this a couple of days ago with the comment, "I will not be answering any questions at this time. I’ll let you all speculate wildly and occasionally I’ll come in here for a chuckle."

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    He later followed up with this info:
    "I’ll just say a few things:
    It is not an Axe-Fx. It won’t be able to do two amps or two cabs. It won’t have things like the Vocoder and other esoteric blocks. It’s a stripped down floor version at an aggressive price.
    It will have G3 modeling and user IR slots. It has two dual-core DSPs, one for amp modeling the other for effects. These DSPs are slower than the ones in the Axe-Fx so it won’t be able to do two instance of amps.
    There will be block compatibility between the Axe-Fx and the AX-8 meaning you can copy blocks from your Axe-Fx presets into the AX-8.
    It has USB, XLR outs for FOH, 1/4 outputs for local monitoring and an FX loop. Four expression pedal inputs. AC powered, no wall-wart."

    Well........
    - High quality amp/cab/effects models in a floor-based unit? check
    - Fx-loop, XLR outs, and no wall wart? check
    - USB? (hopefully that means interface and PC-based preset editing) check (maybe)
    - Advanced routing and "scenes"? check

    This literally has everything I've been looking for in a digital unit ever since I started buying digital gear around 10 years ago. I wonder what "aggressive price" means coming from Fractal. If it means anything close to $1K USD, they already have my money and don't even know it yet.

    They never made indication that the FX8 was going to be aggressively priced and it is $1349. Maybe it'll come in around $1200? I'm thinking (and hoping) this is going to take the totally vacant ~$1000 spot in the middle of the market.
     
  2. traynor_garnet

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    Depending on price, they may sell a boat load of these. Any idea of release date?

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  3. jbealsmusic

    jbealsmusic Occasional CEO Dealer

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    Nothing solid, but knowing FAS's history of announcement vs release, it will probably be about a year from now.
     
  4. Pretty glowing knobs.
     
  5. jbealsmusic

    jbealsmusic Occasional CEO Dealer

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    Easy to see your settings and make adjustments on the fly on a dark stage. :)
     
  6. It's going to make a perfect backup rig. No compromises, completely compatible with my AFII blocks.
     
  7. Budda

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    Basically built for the people who only need one amp and a few effects, but like what Cliff's doing.

    I think its very cool, however i wont be lining up to buy one.
     
  8. jbealsmusic

    jbealsmusic Occasional CEO Dealer

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    Well... Some compromises. Less processing power means less complex presets (no dual amps) and some amps/effects will be excluded (mainly the ones that use more DSP).
     
  9. No compromises meaning I get to keep my Fractal sounds in my backup rig and don't have to dumb it down to Line6 levels! :D
     
  10. Milkman

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    But....the Line 6 HD500X DOES do two amps and two cabs for around $500.

    I don't mind paying more if I get more but I've heard a few Axe FX rigs and yes, they sound great, but not enough of an improvement for me to justify the added cost.

    I certainly wouldn't pay twice or three times as much for less function.

    Dumb is as dumb does I always say (or maybe that was Forest Gump).
     
  11. Voxguy76

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    Agreed. For the price of a HD500, it's hard to beat. I honestly don't think the new AX8 will be in the same market price as any of the Pod HD line. Understandably so, I've had an Axe-fx and the sound is amazing. However if the speculation is accurate and this new AX8 is pushed out at $1200 USD or up, I would assume most will stick with their POD's or full Axe-fx2's and not a dumbed down version of the Axe-fx, despite the form factor ;)
     
  12. dradlin

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    Check out Amplifire from Atomic Amps... at $599 usd it sounds to be quite promising and head and shoulders above HD500. It seems to me that Fractal is playing catch-up and trying to stall Amplifire sales, however with a product that is far from release and no known price point.


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  13. "Hey, I've never played this thing you're talking about but it can't be any better than what I've got so you're dumb" -- solid logic. Solid.
     
  14. Milkman

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    Hmmm, I just went back through the thread looking for this quote. Putting words in someone's mouth?

    If the scaled back unit has less capabilities than the normal Axe FX, and costs twice as much as the HD500X why is it dumb to realize it's not a suitable device for me?

    And by the way, I wasn't the one to introduce the word dumb to this discussion.
     
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