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Discussion in 'Effects Pedals, Strings and more' started by Lola, Sep 13, 2017.

  1. Lola

    Lola

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    I am looking to upgrade my pedal board and need some feedback on other people's choices.

    What pedals do you have and why did you choose them?

    I am just looking to produce a nice heavy rock sound that has some balls to it. I want it to growl when I want it to.

    You all know what kind of music I love.

    What is the main difference between analog and digital pedals?
     
  2. Adcandour

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  3. Granny Gremlin

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    LOL @adcandour

    Digital pedals will be more hifi (e.g. analog delays are usually a bit dark in a way their fans love, but sometimes also noisy - such as the original 70s memory man). Personally, I think multiple rounds of DA/AD conversion are the devil tone-wise, so if you go digital go with 1 digital pedal (possibly a multieffect) rather than a series of them. Digital will often give you more control /dialability but that's not necessarily a good thing; I have come to realise that I'd rather have 2 different 1 trick ponys than a single all -rounder cuz you're not going to want to change the settings between songs all the time. Also I find digital is best for delay/modulation effects - dirt is better analog.

    Aside from that do you actually need any effects or just dirt and tone shaping. Like what would you actually use? No sense recommending a bit crusher if atari sounds are not yer thing.
     
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  4. GTmaker

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    there are 10,263 overdrive pedals available. ( i know cause I have counted them all)
    pick one and your done....you don't need anything else.
    You can get a Danalectro Cool Cat Transparent overdrive pedal from L&M for 40 bucks.
    It doesn't get any easier then that.

    G.
     
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  5. jdto

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    @Lola I know you're also shopping for an amp. I would first try to get the sounds out of the amp that make you a happy camper, then add the embellishments of pedals.

    The clean/crunchy ballsy tone of the music you (and I) like can be had with just an amp and guitar, but it often needs to be loud. You could possibly get some sort of a clean boost or relatively transparent OD to hit the front of the amp harder and get a decent sound at more reasonable volumes for home use. Then you could crank things up when jamming out.

    I bet you could get some pretty damn good rocking tones just out of that Micro Terror that @bigboki lent you.
     
  6. jdto

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    For example, the Schaffer Replica and Storm, which nail the Angus Back in Black tone, are sort of a compressor and clean boost. I really liked mine and sort of regret selling the Storm. It was good enough in front of any amp to almost use as an "always on", but it was also great to add sustain and dynamics for soloing, then back off to a rhythm tone.

    Those pedals are pricey, but if you combined a comp and clean boost, you could probably get a similar effect. I have been experimenting with those two effects in front of the Plexi model on my Amplifire and it sounds pretty good, although I haven't quite dialled them in, just yet.
     
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  7. sulphur

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    Trial and error mostly.

    A lot of pedals are rig dependant, meaning they'll work well with one amp and not so much another.
    There are some that seem to do Ok when used with different amps.
     
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  8. Guncho

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    I prefer amp overdrive vs pedal overdrive. If that's the way you go then pedals are just things like boost (louder), colour (delay, phase, wah), utility (volume, tuner, etc).

    I think most of the bands I've heard you mention use amp overdrive primarily. Not a clean amp with an overdrive pedal in front of it.

    Also you want power tube overdrive not preamp tube overdrive. (This is loud)
     
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  9. Granny Gremlin

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    Also instrument dependent (e.g. buckers vs singles but not just that).
     
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  10. jdto

    jdto Gold Member

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    Yeah, it's not easy to get those sounds at normal human volume, so you have to make some compromises there. In my case, I went the modelling route and I am quite pleased with the sounds I get. I can get a very decent replica of the cranked sound of some legendary amps through all kinds of cabs and not have to deal with police visits and eviction notices. Apartment life...
     
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  11. Guncho

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    Yeah there's not very many amps that will give you power tube overdrive at apartment levels but I'm assuming we're talking full band situation here.

    When I did have my tube halfstack at home I would just use the preamp overdrive for gain.
     
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  12. Lola

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    Thanks for your input!

    I also realize that if I decide to go with the Orange 1x12 extension cabinet my sound will change again! I am sure it will be crunchier then just driving it with my 1x12 Marshall combo amp.

    I really did like the sound Hamstrung was getting from his rig at RW.
     
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  13. jdto

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    What did @Hamstrung have? I know he was rocking an ES-335, which always sound glorious. A Marshall amp? I didn't check it out. He can certainly play up a storm, too, which always helps :D
     
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  14. sulphur

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    Some fuzz can sound better with singles, for just O/D and distortions I found that just about anything will work.
     
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  15. sulphur

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    Settle the rig first Lola, then figure out how much, or how much more dirt you'd need.
     
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