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Repair Question Compression re-fret?

Discussion in 'Guitar Building/Mods/Repair' started by JonnyD, Mar 24, 2020.

  1. JonnyD

    JonnyD Gold Member

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    I did get a message from someone on this forum that is local and willing to help. Just going to give it a month or so until the summer temps or at least not so dry and see what the neck does. Again this is still very much playable, the action on pretty much every guitar at Mcquade is still higher than this one. I will find a set of lighter strings though if there’s a place open that is.
     
  2. Lincoln

    Lincoln Gold Member

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    Yeah, it's really not a big deal. Pull 3 or 4 frets, crimp them, put em back, level & setup.
     
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  3. Hammerhands

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    There are 9.5 strings.

    I would try building a set.

    Those pure nickel already have a very light bottom.
     
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  4. JonnyD

    JonnyD Gold Member

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    Yeah they do. I like them a lot just because they have a low tension.
     
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  6. JonnyD

    JonnyD Gold Member

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    Hey thanks. No to find a guitar store open to grab a set. I’m still waiting on items I ordered weeks ago, probably stuck somewhere in quarantine
     
  7. guitarman2

    guitarman2 Gold Member

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    My 2 Authentics are built to the specs of the old Martins. They both have a truss rod. The old Martins also have a trussrod. They just weren't adjustable.
     
  8. cboutilier

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    It only took Fender a few months to figure out they needed a truss rod. I don't know why they were foolish enough to reissue a defective product.

    You don't see Ford reissuing an authentic replication of an Edsel.
     
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  9. JonnyD

    JonnyD Gold Member

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    So a defective product, it’s been almost 20 years on this one and it has a little relief. Still low action and nothing has twisted. Leo was told by Gretch to put truss rod in or they won’t sell them. There were a few broadcasters sold that had issues with warped necks or other issues. That may be fact or not, who knows. I wouldn’t call this a defective product by any means.


    Those first 50 or so esquire/broadcasters made without truss rods are the most expensive out there.
     
  10. player99

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    There are purists who want to have the original, because of the tone man.
     
  11. nnieman

    nnieman Gold Member

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    Rick Kelly @ carmine st guitars has been making t necks without truss rods for years.
    Often out of reclaimed Douglas fir.

    I made one out of hard maple with a glued on maple fretboard.
    The maple had been air drying for 30 plus years and in my shop for 3.
    I can’t imagine it’s going to move.

    Nathan
     
  12. JonnyD

    JonnyD Gold Member

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    Yeah this one is a thick quarter sawn piece of rock hard maple, if it was going to warp or move to a unplayable condition it would have already.
     
  13. JonnyD

    JonnyD Gold Member

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    So yeah the Martins made before 1985 had truss rods, just non-adjustable. They used compression fretting to get the relief needed. So if Martin was using a fat neck like fender in the beginning maybe they wouldn’t have needed the non-adjustable truss rod in there and just relied on a thick neck and compression fretting technique.

    Still far from a defective product. A bet the original martins before 85 still around today would probably need a little tweak to get back dead straight again
     
  14. guitarman2

    guitarman2 Gold Member

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    Its doubtful that relief would need to adjusted for decades. 1/2" T bar and a big neck would hold, it wouldn't move. However if it did need adjusting the frets would likely need replacing by then anyway.
     
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  15. Lincoln

    Lincoln Gold Member

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    Some of the Douglas fir they used as framing lumber in the 50's & 60's was amazing wood. I've seen lots of quarter sawn, straight grain, beautiful stuff.
    When ever I get involved in a reno of a house from that era, I save all the nice old fir 2-bys.

    No, I'm not a horder.
     
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