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Bass Tones and Techniques 101

Discussion in 'Bass' started by Dorian2, Oct 30, 2019.

  1. HighNoon

    HighNoon Gold Member

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    Leo nailed it with his first try. Then he updated it a couple times in the 50's, body style, and split coil, hitting home runs each time. Next up the J bass....win. Then later nailed it again with Poppa Ball and the first Ray was born. And then again with George Fullerton he brought out the L1000 (Wunkay).....the MFD humbucker is a beast. Win win win win.....
     
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  2. Dorian2

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    So I guess a White Fender Bass of any sort should do the trick! Awesome. ;)
    Kidding aside, thanks for the detailed response @_Azrael as well as your take @HighNoon. I play a 79 LP deluxe with a midrange heavy SD Custom bridge. That sound that I know might be contributing to a few factors in what I want to hear and what I should be aiming for in a mix. This'll be mainly for recording, but it still has to sit in my guitar sound mix. Helps a lot and I appreciate the time you took to tell your story.
     
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  3. Dorian2

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    I've been spending a good portion of my practice time just getting through Heaven and Hell for the last couple of weeks. It's coming along pretty well but the thing that's hooking me a bit is getting the alternate picking as strong on my middle finger as it is on my index. I've always been extremely technique oriented in all my instruments and the Bass is no exception. Trouble is I spent YEARS getting alternate picking technique down pat on guitar, so now I'm expecting it to fly right out of my fingers , which I know ain't gonna happen. It's coming along pretty good though. Having a couple of issues with some of the faster runs in the song partly due to poor setup and finger strength though.

    Do you guys have any cool ideas on a fun practice routine for say 10 - 15 minutes a day on alternate picking runs and such. I can probably figure out a bucnh on my own but I'd rather hear from others on their approach.

    Thanks much!
     
  4. keto

    keto Gold Member

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    Any inclination at all to try it with a pick?
     
  5. Dorian2

    Dorian2

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    Not at this moment for this particular song. I've used a pick previously to this and I'm fine with that approach too. First couple of songs I intend on learning are with finger style though. It's yet to be determined which way I land though. Might be a combination of the two. I might try the song with a pick tomorrow just to see how it works out.
     
  6. Dorian2

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    So I played the tune with both fingers and the flat edge of a 1.14 Dunlop with the flat edge. Pick of course was a hell a lot easier and I rifled through the whole tune with out much of a hitch. But after playing solely with the fingers for the last 2 weeks I feel obliged, technical issues and all, to finish it with that style of picking. I think a part of the reason I'm leaning with fingers is because I'm trying to seperate my guitar style from the style I'll adopt for Bass. I also get a better feel and overall tone that I slightly prefer over the pick. But hey, if I have to pick something up pretty quickly I can go to the pick since that's my main guitar thing. Nothing but a win win.
     
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  7. Baconator

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    Good for you for sticking with the idea of expanding your technique! I've been playing bass for over 30 years and I'm still working on my technique, probably more now than ever before. Here are 2 things to incorporate into your practice that can help:

    1) practice scales over all ranges of the instrument using alternate picking. The important thing with this is to use a metronome and alternate which finger you start with. This will work on three things at the same time: consistent tempo, scale knowledge and finger independence. If you do this for 5 minutes every time you practice you'll notice improvement quickly.

    2) play scales or even single notes in triplets and accent the first note. Better yet, play the first note at normal volume and ay the next two lighter. This will help again with finger independence and help you develop a lighter touch, which isn't as easy as it seems. Again, practice with a metronome as it helps you improve your timing and helps you track your progress.

    Both of these exercises can be altered to incorporate and patterns you want at any tempo or plucking intensity.

    I really need to get back to doing these exercises myself!
     
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  8. laristotle

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    This is my problem, or something I have to work on.
    Keeping three fingers going consistently.
    I'd love to be able to gallop like Steve Harris.
     
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  9. Dorian2

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    Thanks for that. I thought it would be nice to get a refreshing viewpoint from the players here. Back to basics is always a good thing. Right now I'm working on alternate picking starting on both i and m from the root and going up the major scale with alternates and going down with rakes/alternate. The mighty Metronome has been a mainstay in my practice routine for over 30 years so no issues there.
     
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  10. Dorian2

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    As a huge MAiden fan, that's one of my goals at this point. Steve uses the 2 finger alternates which apparently a number of Bassists find a problem with. I've checked a few lessons online and I haven't exactly agreed on the approach some of those guys are taking with it using 3 fingers. Just doesn't sound right and it loses the Legato feel to my ear. Just yesterday I was trying to figure out which Maiden tune I'm going to try. Gonna try to keep it simple(r) with Flight of Icarus or possibly some older stuff. The Trooper is a possibility but judging from where I am with Heaven and Hell I'm going to need to run through those alternate picking exercises previously discussed. It's starting to get there though.
     
  11. Dorian2

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    Here's one for the guitarist turned Bassist, or whoever plays both types. When you did athe switch, did it have an effect on your approach to the 6 string sibling? I'm finding how I look at and feel the neck is quite a bit different when I pick up the Acoustic or electric. Along with shifting the tonal shape of how I listen to stuff after a little over 3 weeks of this, I'm also playing with more attention to what is or should be going over the parts I play. Whether it be noodling or playing a tune I already know. I think this was a really good move for me because there is a major shift in the way I've viewed things for so long. I'm also hearing where the different frequencies will fall a LOT clearer than before. Kinda wish I did this 20 years ago. Anyone relate to this?
     
  12. keto

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    ENTIRELY changed my approach. I no longer have one lol, I quit playing guitar entirely. Oh, I'll pick up a pretty one at a store or someone's place and strum a few cowboy chords.

    I know that wasn't helpful :P
     
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  13. Dorian2

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    That was helpful actually. It's a pretty powerful and compelling instrument and your experience is pretty much proof positive of that.
     
  14. bw66

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    It pushed me into a much better understanding of arpeggios and arpeggios within the scales built on each degree of the scale.
     
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    Just checked this out. Seems like a pretty good reference for a few sounds to get to when needed.

     

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