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"Active" vs "Passive" Bass

Discussion in 'Bass' started by Dorian2, Oct 26, 2019.

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  1. Dorian2

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    It does have an 8 Ohm out on the back. Wonder what it sounds like through a couple of V30's! I'm going to spend a bit of time tomorrow to check a few things out. Just dipping my toe in the water right now. Don't want no Rabbit holes which are going to come in force at some point. My intention is for practicing and recording original music.
     
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  2. Frenchy99

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    Im probably in The dumb as shit bass player so here goes nothing.

    Some of my basses are dedicated to certain song due to the sound I get from that instrument. Passive instruments are more limited in theyre capability and you need to take your amp in consideration for this... ( just like guitar)

    My active basses are more versatile, and I tend to like the ones with boost and EQ. helps you dial the amount of growl for those special moments. add the fact that some of these can be passive with a flick of a switch and you get a super versatile instrument.

    I use several basses when I play, a Rick, a Fender Jazz and a Westone Super Headless. The Westone is my No 1 for the last 20 years just for the tonal range it gives me. I can dial almost every tone I need with it.

    Active electronics due vary from one Co to another. a 16 watt amp will not allow you to test these out properly...
     
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    Thanks for the insight Frenchy and all others who've responded so far. I realize it's a bit of a pain to really do a "writeup" on tone differences and approaches as there are so many factors involved. I have a much better idea of what the Active circuit is doing now. Again, keep in mind I'm really new to Bass and what goes into the sound, so I'm approaching it from a brand new player perspective. I'm trying to seperate my experience as a guitar player totally, which may or may not be a good idea. The music theory, notes on the fretboard, some technique, and where to place a beat aren't a concern so I think more than half the battle is already there.
     
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    A good P-bass covers it all. :cool:
     
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    So now that we have the Active vs passive sort of figured out, and I've edited the title, what about the other components?

    From the OP:
    It's been determined that a new Bass Amp is certainly required. I'll also be touching on the effects used to a degree. Along with the Kustom, I also have a Zoom B2 to plug into it. I haven't played around with it much, but it's unlikely to stay as a viable option unless otherwise proven wrong. Any suggestions on a decent Amp and effect unit(s) for recording and possible future live playing. I was thinking along the lines of the Fender Rumble 40 to start. Just due to reviews and pricing. I know what I need to do to figure it out s far as trying different amps to suit my ear/style. But again, looking for real world input, not popularity and trying to cop the tone of a specific player.

    That being said, I DO have a couple of Bass players who have influenced my ear and how I view Bass playing in general. Geddy Lee, Steve Harris, Rudy Sarzo, Dave LaRue, and Geezer to name a few.

    BTW: I do/have been following a number of Bass amp threads here and elsewhere so I have a fairly good idea of what's available. I really don't think a tube amp is going to be in the cards unless there is a viable option, perhaps a Hybrid model, at a lower price point than I've seen. I'm trying to keep the Amp price to under $400-$500. The setup is in a residential single dwelling home in the basement that is not sound proofed but dampened down with SAfe and Sound in part of the ceiling. So i'm not looking for a 200Watter. Unless otherwise proven wrong. Again. ;)
     
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    That's a much more serious consideration for another thread in my case. I have yet to check out any other Bass's but it certainly has been first and foremost in this quest. That one might take a while. Once I get a semi decent rig to play through it'll be easier to rent and test what's going to work for my sound.
     
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    Here's a few in your area that may suit your needs.
    They have headphone out and also DI for eventual gigging.
    Fender Bronco 40 Bass Amp | Amps & Pedals | Edmonton | Kijiji
    Fender Bronco 40 bass amplifier Killer deal | Amps & Pedals | Edmonton | Kijiji
    Fender Rumble 150 Bass Amp Combo | Amps & Pedals | Edmonton | Kijiji
     
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    I checked out that Rumble 40. I'm really not too keen on amps with built in effects. I feel, right or wrong, that it takes away what could have been put into the base tone of the amp, especially at that lower price point. But I'm not closing the door or burning that bridge at this point. Thanks for posting those Larry.
     
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    Don't rule out higher power combos, you don't have to play loud, but the headroom available for peaks removes the limitations of smaller power amps (as far as tonal variety goes).
    Older combos in the 200 to 400W power range are not uncommon at your price point or less.
     
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    Yeah, if you ever plan on playing live with other electric musicians, you’d probably start at 200W and go up. No reason to fear digital onboard stuff, potentially very handy for recording. As I hinted earlier and Larry reiterated, a DI out is good - recording, live use into a PA, etc.

    Also, solid state is, real or not, seen to be more mature tech and usable for bass than guitar, tube stuff exists and is good but lots of SS stuff is great, higher powered higher headroom, can growl and snarl, and will be lower maintenance, not to mention can be used without a cab plugged in (recording etc).
     
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    Both of my bass amps are SS combos.
    Markbass 115, 500w
    Traynor SB 115, 200w

    Last spring, I played through a Fender BXR 80, street gig.
    Surprisingly, it cut through the mix well.

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    That was on the list of questions I intended to ask. Either this or maybe there are some new scaling options available as well. But I'm trying to still keep it in the home music room/studio recording model.
     
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    I'm not too worried about Digital onboard. But I do have a tendency to avoid if possible. Due to past experience too long to get into. I like the idea of a DI out. I actually ruled out any tube stuff long ago and have a bit of love for SS. I still have a Peavey Bandit 65 hanging around the room. Just in case. SS seems to be the way to go for sure. Thanks for all the great pointers!
     
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    @laristotle , how's that Traynor BTW. I've kinda been eyeing those and the Ampeg. Keeping the price in mind of course. I haven't scoured kijiji yet because I'll want to check a few options here as rentals first.
     
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    I like it. More so than a TC Electronics Toneprint 250 that I A/B'd against.
    Roughly the same price point.
    Even though the TC has 50 watts more, on board tuner, downloadable effects etc,
    I didn't need/want the bells n' whistles.
     
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